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more of the glory days!


 

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Here are three images from yesteryear featuring that 11 foot Enterprise model being set up for a scene, and it doesn’t matter how many times you have seen these pictures it is always a treat to se them again!!!

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21 Responses to “more of the glory days!”


  1. 1 Suricata
    April 2, 2009 at 1:24 am

    It still amazes me when I see the scale of this model that the pylons didn’t snap under the weight of the nacelles. I’ve owned a few of the NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A model kits and always had issues with the pylons eventually giving way due to the weight, I’m pretty sure ofcourse that there was some pretty sturdy metel framework inside the model to prevent this, but wow, what a beast of a model!

    I find it also amusing when looking at this model, that when we compare it to modern day science fiction ships, it looks very bland in appearance, but when placed next to other science fiction vessels of the day, it’s actually quite a detailed model, although back in the 60′s the stype of the time was very simplified to try and project a futuristic look.

  2. April 2, 2009 at 5:13 am

    Love seeing these pictures… how I wish I could have been there… but, alas, such is life.

    Those warp pylons didn’t snap because a couple of things…

    first, the pylons themselves were SOLID WOOD. not hollow. There was a channel routed in them to accomodate the wires to power the nacelle domes, but that’s it. They were solid and anchored into a solid wood base in the secondary hull. They built ‘em good.

    Second, from what I have seen, the nacelles themselves were a relatively light understructure and then skinned… so they are much lighter than you might think. There was only lighting and motors in the leading section of the engine, so it was perfectly balanced with the lighter, but longer, aft section.

    Another aspect to this is that the base on which the model was mounted rarely moved. They would position the heading and the tilt of the model, but that was it. The camera on its tracks did all the moving. Very efficient, and not much stress on the model itself.

    To quote Kirk’s friend, Tyree… “I want more of these, John… many more!”

  3. 3 DeanneM
    April 2, 2009 at 5:26 am

    Like others have commented, I didn’t know they had the big 11′ model of NCC 1701. I thought they used a much smaller model, back in the day. It’s nice to see the shots with her set up for shooting, dwarfing the camera next to her!

  4. 4 Freak
    April 2, 2009 at 5:38 am

    She sure is a big girl.
    I have never seen these before, thanks for showing them.

  5. April 2, 2009 at 7:22 am

    As lovely and as large as that model was, it’s too bad they didn’t have better effects processing so that the image wasn’t degraded so much by the time it was added to the print. I know they could have gotten some great shots if the effects shots hadn’t have had to go through so many generations. I mean, look at that model! Imagine what one could do with it today’s cameras and effects compositing.

    Well, no need to imagine, we saw it on “Trials and Tribble-ations” which we beautiful even with a smaller model. But having that kind of image back on the original show would have made it even better.

  6. 6 evil_genius_180
    April 2, 2009 at 8:21 am

    I can never see to much of that ship. Thanks for sharing the great pictures.

  7. 7 deg
    April 2, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Yep, that’s the sweet stuff right there, it sure is. :D

    LLP,
    deg

  8. 8 ety3
    April 2, 2009 at 8:53 am

    Beautiful. I always liked the contrast those black stripes along the port and starboard nav lights gave. It’s a shame it was only used for “Where No Man Has Gone Before.”

  9. 9 Jonathan Burke (TrekBBS' Praetor)
    April 2, 2009 at 11:20 am

    Awesome. So where are the pictures of the three-footer? ;)

  10. 10 Andru
    April 2, 2009 at 11:56 am

    Great photos of the pilot Enterprise! I never had noticed the black panels on the saucer top before. One thing I don’t understand though. I’ve been led to believe that the port side of the model was left unpainted because it was never filmed during the series. But then in the top picture here the port side looks detailed and lighted. Could somebody explain?

  11. April 2, 2009 at 12:24 pm

    Andru, that’s a good Q. I would imagine that’s a flopped image with the backwards decals applied.

    LLP,
    deg

  12. April 2, 2009 at 2:46 pm

    Yes, that photo is backwards, it should be flipped. Nice idea to print sets of backwards lettering but what a pain to change them. Some corrections. There was no internal wireing in the pylons it was all outside. It wasn’t until Ed rennovated it that the pylons were cut for internal wiring. You can clearly see the plugs and wires coming from behind both nacelles forward of the pylon in this photo from the Enterprise’s arrival at the Smithsonian here:

    [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/DS_trek3548.jpg[/IMG]

    Also, the engine were only wood from the pylon forward. The rest was sheet metal which is very light. The rear cap was wood.

    Here are photos of the rennovation. You can clearly see the new wood added to the pylons after they had been routed out for the internal wiring:
    [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/kg_star-trek_tos_1701_studio_model-.jpg[/IMG]
    [IMG]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/kg_star-trek_tos_1701_studio_mod-1.jpg[/IMG]

    I hope this photos show up, they are amazing.

  13. April 2, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    I think it is the flopped image… with the backwards decal on there… they have the dolly tracks on the other side too… cause you can see by the shadow in the color pic of the wall behind the model on the right hand side, the blue section goes above the break in the bluescreen upper panel… and it’s on the opposite side in the “flopped” version.

    But it’s all moot, cause we KNOW the port side was never finished…

  14. April 2, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Sorry for all of the post but I wanted to post this one as well. See the holes above the pylon hole? This is where the original wiring came through the secondary hull and went up the inboard side of the pylon. See this photo:

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/kg_star-trek_tos_1701_studio_mod-2.jpg

    Thus can be seen in this stock shot from the show:
    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/zzzwire-1.jpg

    I love this ship, lol. Sorry to be so anal!

    Will

  15. April 2, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    One more, sorry!! Here is the same photo enlarged and lightened up. You can see the wire much better here:

    http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b64/fendert/zzzwire2.jpg

    Ok, I promise no more posting from me!!!

  16. 17 Simon Matthew Coles
    April 2, 2009 at 8:33 pm

    Beautiful model – I definitely have a preference for the Pilot version though with the tall bridge, big dish and salt shaker nacelle end caps.

  17. 19 Andru
    April 3, 2009 at 12:16 am

    Will, Daren & deg: thanks for your insight, all of this is really fascinating!

  18. 20 Tanru
    April 9, 2009 at 4:13 am

    The grills at the back of the Defiant’s nacelles on DS9 always reminded me of the grills on the back of the pilot-version of the Enterprise. Also seen at the back of the nacelles on Greg Jein’s(??) Daedelus Class.

  19. 21 Robert Minnes
    July 31, 2009 at 5:43 am

    There’s more to tell about those marvellous colourpictures of the the model. Apparently they are stills from a behind-the-scenes film made at the time. This movie is in the possession of Curt McAloney, a professional fotorestorator who acquired it from the Roddenberry’s who sold bits and pieces of paraphenelia of the show after its cancellation. He bought not only this movie but also deleted scenes (amongst others from “Balance of terror”) and outtakes…Imagine that deleted scenes and outtakes from TOS !!! I never knew they existed, nor was there any mention of it on any of the DVD-incarnations.
    Mr. McAloney is currently in the process of restoring these filmfootage since they have suffered through the years.
    He had an active website showcasing all this but has pulled it off the active grid, because his site was hacked into. But fortunatly he archived his site here:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20071004220504/www.startrekhistory.com/restoration/index.html

    It’s a jawdropping experience, at least for me it was. And yes there is a colourpicture with the backward decals (section model & bluescreen)


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